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    My thoughts exactly paralleled those of this author:

    Rather than consider Asian American political preferences on their own terms—or even acknowledge the range of experience among different Asian American groups—[Charles] Murray lumps them all into a single, undistinguished mass of model minorities, and then wonders why they don’t vote for Republican candidates:

        Something’s wrong with this picture. It’s not just that the income, occupations, and marital status of Asians should push them toward the right. Everyday observation of Asians around the world reveal them to be conspicuously entrepreneurial, industrious, family-oriented, and self-reliant. If you’re looking for a natural Republican constituency, Asians should define “natural.”

    It’s worth noting the implicit contrast here. Entrepreneurism, industriousness, family-orientation, self-reliance—these are things that Murray sees as unique to Republican constituencies. Which must also mean that these are thing that go unvalued by Democratic constituencies, namely, African Americans, Latinos, young people, and single women.

    What is astounding to me isn't just that the Republicans have pigeonholed people, and oversimplified the entire complexities that go into a person's views on life based on their personal experiences; it's also that they actually, apparently, believe in their own bull. Hello Mr. Murray, I'm an industrious white male with a knack for adventure, intimacy among friends and family, and doing things myself. I'm also a liberal. I keep thinking that, somehow, deep down, the GOP understands that their stereotypes of a typical Democrat aren't matching reality. But they keep proving me wrong.

    "Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell." ~Edward Abbey ////\\\\ "To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships." ~W.E.B. DuBois

    by rovertheoctopus on Mon Nov 26, 2012 at 01:08:51 PM PST

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      Forgot to add!

      http://prospect.org/...

      "Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell." ~Edward Abbey ////\\\\ "To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships." ~W.E.B. DuBois

      by rovertheoctopus on Mon Nov 26, 2012 at 01:09:24 PM PST

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    •  It seems that the Republicans' biggest problem is (7+ / 0-)

      that they have become the "let's-cater-to-fundamentalist-evangelicals" part.  The problem for them now is that there just aren't that many fundamentalist evangelicals amongst Asian-Americans, Hispanic-Americans, and the youth, in general.

      "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

      by Lawrence on Mon Nov 26, 2012 at 01:25:46 PM PST

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    •  Asians and Latinos both used to vote R more often (2+ / 0-)

      But the current brand embraces the nativist Tea Partiers, who can barely control their virulent racism.  Of course Asian-Americans, as well as Latino-Americans, would recoil from this attitude, correctly seeing it as a threat and an attack on their own legitimacy as American citizens.  The vote suppression nonsense confirmed these fears.  

      Silicon Valley used to be closer to centrist than it is now.  The current Republican platform is poison to a community with so many immigrants and children of immigrants.  (There's plenty of other reasons as well.). 10-20 years ago Republicans represented some districts around here. Not any more and not any time in future if they stick to this approach.

      Also the California Republican Party is pretty much cratered. Their one up and coming star quit the party and went Independent. They don't have anyone else in the current political leagues to run for a statewide office, not that they'd get enough votes to win.  Maybe that's why we get rich business types who try to buy themselves an election. And lose.

    •  The problem is that the GOP tends to think (1+ / 0-)
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      Everyday observation of Asians around the world reveal them to be conspicuously entrepreneurial, industrious, family-oriented, and self-reliant.
      doesn't immediately translate to GOP policies of wealth accumulation for the 1% and Ayn Randism for the rest of us.

      Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

      by a gilas girl on Mon Nov 26, 2012 at 02:00:05 PM PST

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    •  What Murray omits. (7+ / 0-)

      I followed your link and went on to read the Charles Murray piece. His thesis:

      My thesis is that the GOP is in trouble across the electoral board because it has become identified in the public mind with social conservatism.

      At the end of the article he defines perceptions of social conservatism as : “ Bible-thumping, anti-gay, anti-abortion creationists.” (As an aside, Murray describes these perceptions as “ludicrously inaccurate.” To which I would say: Really? Read the GOP party platform.)

      In other words, entrepreneurial, industrious Asians would be Republicans if not for wedge issues.

      Conspicuously missing from Murray’s analysis is any reference at all to racism in the GOP. Isn’t that the elephant in the room? As the saying goes, not all Republicans are racists but most racists are Republicans. The GOP may not pursue explicitly racist policies as much anymore but no one can argue that they are not above exploiting racial animus in the electorate for political gain.

      When someone like Newt Gingrich calls Obama “the food stamp President” or some Republican talks about ‘anchor babies’ everybody hears that – not just the white people who appeals to racial resentment are supposed to work on. Republicans don’t typically target Asians with racist rhetoric but what do you imagine they think when they hear other non-whites being disparaged?

      Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx

      by Joe Bob on Mon Nov 26, 2012 at 02:19:27 PM PST

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