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  •  Obama '12 has proven that we don't need (11+ / 0-)

    To worry about the racist white male vote in order to win.

    The country has changed, and for the better.

    I like the fact that the Democrats are the Natural Governing Party thanks to immigration :)

    •  WE don't need to worry about AWM (5+ / 0-)

      but the GOP has a real problem because they do.
      It would take a very skillful walkback to get their base to swallow real immigration reform.

      If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

      by CwV on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 02:14:02 PM PST

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      •  I think that Anger was always latent in some (2+ / 0-)
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        people, but in others it has been revved up. It seems to me that from 2008-2010, there was just a horrible anti-immigrant sentiment flooding the airwaves, comments sections, etc.

        There are some people who just believe what they here or see. If all they see of immigrants are people being arrested for drug crimes or any other negative stereotype then they will think about that group as "bad". If other things were emphasized, like family values, the work-ethic, respect for authority and the elderly, then people would think differently. Well, some people anyway.

        •  it's always been there (0+ / 0-)

          people were just not paying attention and personally, I have always seen the work-ethic, respect for authority and the elderly....wish I saw more of that in us who were born and raised here.

          mittens=edsel. no matter how much money is spent to promote it, if the product sucks, no one will buy it.

          by wewantthetruth on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 04:08:35 PM PST

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          •  The elderly in the U.S. are (0+ / 0-)

            well respected in society.  They get Medicare, SS benefits and pensions and have AARP fighting for them.  

            It is legal for them to discriminate in housing against people with children.  Those "retirement" communities, they call them. Grrrrr.

            It's us working stiffs that need some respect.

      •  Lindsay Graham said a while back... (0+ / 0-)

        ...that "we're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

        Graham knows that his party, the GOP, is dependent on the "Angry White Male" segment of the population, which is slowly decreasing as percentage of the national electorate, as its political base.

        Over the next several decades, the GOP will have to pull itself to the center in order to remain relevant on the national political stage, as ultra-conservatives will probably only be able to get elected in some pockets of the Deep South (such as Graham's home state of South Carolina) and Interior West a few decades from now.

        Friend of the Wisconsin Uprising from East Central Illinois! IL-15

        by DownstateDemocrat on Wed Jan 30, 2013 at 02:42:31 PM PST

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