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  •  FOX has better ratings because (12+ / 0-)

    FOX is available on basic cable networks, while CNN and MSNBC are only on the higher tiers.

    So, the drop in viewership is due to those who are just tuning out- not watching the other programs.

    Also- a lot of people are dropping cable all together- ditching the TV for Netflix and PC programing.

    Growing old is inevitable...Growing up is purely optional

    by grannycarol on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 03:00:57 PM PST

    •  Not in every market (7+ / 0-)

      MSNBC and CNN are on the same tier as FOX News, expanded basic, here in the Bay Area. (Need to make the distinction between FOX News and FOX Entertainment, which is on basic cable as it's carried on traditional "over air" local channels.) Also, if it's just people tuning out, how do you explain increases in MSNBC viewership? (A major beef I have is in many hotels/motels, the only choice for a news channel is FOX on their limited channel lineup, which is why I mostly watch ESPN when I'm away from home.)

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      by Cali Scribe on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 03:16:34 PM PST

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    •  you're wrong about most markets (3+ / 0-)
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      but the few that you're right about does pull MSNBC's numbers, in particular, down a little. CNN is pretty much in every market, like Fox, so I don't think you're right there at all.

      That said, Fox's viewers are almost all old people and some middle aged. MSNBC's are almost all young people and middle aged.

      There are more old people than young people, but not forever... and it's changing fast for places like Fox. Just like the GOP has a demographics problem, so does Fox.

      •  And better yet, (3+ / 0-)
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        the cable company that's seemed most intransigent about keeping MSNBC on a higher (usually digital-only) tier has been Comcast...

        ...which now owns MSNBC outright.

        Which is to say, if MSNBC isn't already more widely available on lower tiers of Comcast systems, it will be soon.

        Intended to be a factual statement.

        by ipsos on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 04:27:17 PM PST

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        •  I stand corrected (3+ / 0-)
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          Also- it does peeve me at motels.  I got into an argument with a clerk for having FOX on in the lobby.  Only when I threatened to call the main office and asked him for his full name did he change the channel.

          Growing old is inevitable...Growing up is purely optional

          by grannycarol on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 05:29:51 PM PST

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