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  •  Bull pucky regarding Ed. (3+ / 0-)
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    If you're going to make this kind of global statement, than you better darn well have a link to prove it.  Certainly if Ed told you to stay home, you can prove that. LINK PLEASE.

    But even if he did, which I don't believe for a minute, WTF? It's ridiculous to try to push off our 2010 loss on anyone other than ourselves, the Democratic party. And if we didn't learn our lesson in 2010, then we'll have to learn it again in 2014, with yet more pain.

    I guess the question is, now different are we from those we abhor? Those we laugh at for not learning their lessons.

    We needn't be so afraid of "GOP power" if and when we learn to claim our own power.  And that  means you freaking show up at the polls in the mid terms, and you make the best choices you have as a Democrat. Period.

    It's not up to Ed or any other pundit or for that matter, any slew of naysayers on this site regarding the Democratic party.  That's what's real, that's what we have, despite it's myriad of imperfections.  And that's what you show up for, and you don't make excuses about it later.

    "A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues." Theodore Roosevelt.

    by StellaRay on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 07:03:38 PM PST

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    •  In Ed's own words (1+ / 0-)
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      It's difficult to be happy knowing so many suffer. We must unite.

      by War on Error on Tue Feb 19, 2013 at 07:44:59 AM PST

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      •  Mea Culpa. (1+ / 0-)
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        However, this was not about the mid terms of 2010, but rather 2014---and although I understand Ed's anger, as I'm pretty sure this was about Reid's candy ass filibuster "reform," which infuriated me as well, I don't approve of his "revolutionary" threat to not vote.  And I suspect come the mid terms of 2014, you won't here Ed saying it again either.

        The rest of my comment stands. As I said, I don't care what any pundit says, there's nothing to be gained by not voting, except another republican in congress, another republican governor, another republican state congress.

        "A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues." Theodore Roosevelt.

        by StellaRay on Tue Feb 19, 2013 at 08:17:39 AM PST

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        •  It was 2010. (1+ / 0-)
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          It was just before I decided to boycott cable TV.  I heard Ed say this on his TV show, too, but can't find any recorded clips.  I was appalled that Ed was using these words.  Did he sway anyone to stay home?  Who knows.  But it was not a good strategy, you think?

          Here's the source for the audio clip above

          Yes, Ed Schultz, You Told Democrats Not to Vote in 2010

           

          It's difficult to be happy knowing so many suffer. We must unite.

          by War on Error on Tue Feb 19, 2013 at 08:58:40 AM PST

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          •  Thanks for the info. (1+ / 0-)
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            I'm appalled too, but Ed can be a hot head, nothing new there. Although I do admire his voice and loyalty to labor. Still, I consider his words irresponsible to say the least.  We don't change things by not voting.

            And yes, maybe he did convince some to not vote, who were already so angry they liked his "strategy."  And then we got a shellacking and the pain never ends.  And it did nothing to change the GOP, or the Democratic party.

            It's a fact too, that Dems have a history of poor mid term voting records.  Fingers crossed it won't happen again in 2014, that maybe we learned a lesson?  Ever the optimist.

            I appreciate you setting me straight on this. I just didn't think big Ed would be that stupid.  

            "A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues." Theodore Roosevelt.

            by StellaRay on Tue Feb 19, 2013 at 12:28:32 PM PST

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