Combined results thread #10

Indiana

84 percent reporting

          %    Dels
Clinton  52     15
Obama    48     11

Vote margin: 38,772

North Carolina (Winner: Obama)

74 percent reporting

          %    Dels
Obama    56     31
Clinton  42     20

Vote margin: 178,311

Lake County (Gary) won't report until 11 p.m. ET. Yet another reason it rocks living on the West Coast.

Update: Lanny Davis is a tool. I'm so glad he's a Clinton supporter.

Update II: Lanny Davis is a whiny tool.

Also, Clinton's margin in IN is going back up.

Finally, a site note -- we'll hit the site's 13 19 millionth comment tomorrow.

Update III: Is Lanny Davis a big tool, or the biggest tool? Wow, he keeps one-upping himself.

•  I Love the Smell of Victory in the Morning !!

  

  

  

  by Al Rodgers on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:04:08 PM PDT

  •  Damn you, kos

    I know it is you.

    by gchaucer2 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:04:29 PM PDT

    •  Lanny Davis is a little monkey bitch

      by Steven R on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:06:54 PM PDT

      •  And he gives money to Republicans

        Rob Portman and Orrin Hatch.  Look it up.

        by Pragmaticus on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:08:17 PM PDT

        •  and what his Hillary's favorite team?

          ... lol

          by Great Uncle Bulgaria on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:10:06 PM PDT

          •  LaPorte Came in Strong for Obama

            It is +10 C for Pablano, 2000 votes, with 50% in, it's +4C only 500 votes.

            by Steven R on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:10:50 PM PDT

        •  Really? Rob Portman?

          Rob "He sent your job to China" Portman, who some think plans to run for Ohio governor in 2010 (Remember: "Rob Portman -- he sent Ohio jobs to China")? I'm not too happy with Gov. Strickland today for procedural reasons, but we will kick Rob Portman's ass in 2010, just like we kicked Kenny Blackwell's in 2006.

          BTW Ohio mainstream media, where were the howls for Kenny to resign after he royally screwed up  our 2004 election? Oh right....there was dead silence.

          by anastasia p on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:17:13 PM PDT

        •  That's party disloyalty...

          ...if he's on any Democratic Committee, Davis can be removed according to party bylaws.

          by Junkyard Dem on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:24:43 PM PDT

      •  Liebercrat Lanny, you mean the guy

        that lectures everyone about civility, then goes on TV and lies his ass off as an attack dog?

        In 2009 can we run him out of both D.C. and the Democratic Party?

        by TrueBlueCT on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:17:35 PM PDT

      •  I Don't Like that "Kiki" chick, either.

        She's a Hillary surrogate.  Hillary has some of the nastiest, meanest, unpleasant people surrounding her.  Says a lot.

        by jiminy on Wed May 07, 2008 at 12:36:47 AM PDT

    •  gchaucer, Radio Canada is saying...

      that Indiana will go to Obama.  Don't kill the messenger.  

      by David Kroning on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:06:58 PM PDT

      •  YEAH CANADA!!!

        They gotta make up for that nafta crap

        by Steven R on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:08:10 PM PDT

        •  It's the French post...these guys

          are junkies like us on KOS...they are saying he makes it up in the Gary area.

          by David Kroning on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:09:09 PM PDT

          •  Gary is Obama country

            I wouldn't be surprised if he got over 90% there.  Now the hard question:  Should I stay up to find out or do I go to bed?  I've got a damn presentation to do first thing in the morning.

            by brightstar on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:15:14 PM PDT

            •  I'M UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

              startin the coffee

              by Nebraska Outsider on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:18:15 PM PDT

              •  I mean the latte, and I'm going to sip it n/t

                by Nebraska Outsider on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:19:00 PM PDT

                •  Latte in Nebraska?

                  You really are an elitist! :)

                  by brightstar on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:01:21 PM PDT

            •  Gary is, Lake County not so much.

              Here's how it plays.

              Obama losses

              Hendricks:  300
              Porter:  1600
              Union:  500
              Jennings:  100
              Clark:  900
              LaPorte:  500

              Total losses:  3900

              Obama gains

              Tippecanoe:  3000
              Hamilton:  1000
              Marion:  3500
              Monroe:  4200
              Lake:  13000

              Total gains:  24,700

              Total change:  20,800

              Clinton remains 22,000+ votes ahead.

              by Yamaneko2 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:21:48 PM PDT

              •  Thanks for the insight

                I'm in Michigan and as Detroit goes, so goes Wayne County and if enough Detroiters come out and vote, they can trump the rest of the state.  

                by brightstar on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:03:57 PM PDT

      •  Yoiks.

        I'll post my email for you tomorrow -- promise!  I'm riveted right now.  Hmmm, I actually listen to Radio Canada -- Barbara Budd.

        by gchaucer2 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:08:33 PM PDT

        •  No, no...not BBC, the Radio Canada (in french)

          by David Kroning on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:09:38 PM PDT

          •  Oh, that's right

            hey, wait a minute -- don't you think Barb and I can speak French?  :-)

            by gchaucer2 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:10:59 PM PDT

            •  Probablement, tu es vraiment une femme formidable

              ...tu peux faire n'importe quoi ma chere.

              by David Kroning on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:12:06 PM PDT

          •  Radio Canada also...

            transmits in English on shortwave. I use to listen to it regularly. Sure hope they're right!!!

            by reflectionsv37 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:13:01 PM PDT

            •  This is what they said:

              A ce moment, on peux predire qu'Obama va remporter l'état d'Indiania...parceque tous les places ruraux a ete toujours compté.  

              Tous ce qu'il reste est Lake County, pres de Gary, ou Obama remportra.

              by David Kroning on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:15:49 PM PDT

              •  Now you've done it!!!

                I'll take your word for it!!!

                by reflectionsv37 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:21:25 PM PDT

              •  "Indiania"?

                I didn't realize there was a franglais version of "Indiana."

                by wader on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:21:35 PM PDT

      •  she means Al Rodgers is Kos' sockpuppet.

        by kate mckinnon on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:09:29 PM PDT

      •  I love Canada. n/t

        "Help!!! I'm being Enlightened!" - TCFKNCS's avatar

        I always wanted to quote an avatar.

        by RhymesWithUrple on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:10:36 PM PDT

        •  Traitor!

          You're supposed to blame it!

          by Deltones on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:29:22 PM PDT

      •  I do like Radio Canada...:)

        by Paladine on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:12:48 PM PDT

      •  Blame Canada.

        by DemocraticLuntz on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:13:13 PM PDT

    •  Lets Go Obama!

      Time to donate folks.

      http://www.dailykos.com/...

      YES WE CAN!

      by Lava20 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:08:23 PM PDT

    •  If it was Kos--he's have MJ and the Bulls'

      dynasty.  Obama has some of Phil Jackson's Zen-like quality.

      What's most fascinating is seeing Timmy's subtle shift the past 3 hours.  He was trying to keep the race going before, he's not now.

      by RFK Lives on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:11:13 PM PDT

  •  he looks like rudy g in the 2nd pic nt

    by mjkelly on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:06:01 PM PDT

  •  Yeah, but the C's are losing to Cleveland

    3rd Q

    by muledriver on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:06:40 PM PDT

    •  Go cavs!!

      I almost forgot the game was on!!!  Good timing... Harold Ford's on pitching for a joint ticket..

      by LordMike on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:11:18 PM PDT

  •  Al, can you name the Celtics in that picture?

    by muledriver on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:07:41 PM PDT

    •  My list

      Bill Russell,KC Jones, Satch Sanders, Bob Cousey, John Havlicek, Red Auebach

      Unsure who the white quy is next to Cousy -- possibly Bailey Howell or Bill Sharman??

      by muledriver on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:16:20 PM PDT

  •  Quick shout out re: speed and reliability

    of the site tonight!

    Really appreciate having a place to share these experiences with everyone -- especially one that runs so smoothly, and stays up, when being slammed by traffic.

    Ta Markos!

    by Loquatrix on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:07:50 PM PDT

  •  TR'ed Red Auerbach and the f'ing Celtics

    If it seriously messes you up in any way let me know and I'll cancel it out.

    by kosophile on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:08:56 PM PDT

    •  HA! Now that's a partisan fan.

      by kate mckinnon on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:10:26 PM PDT

    •  Hating the Celtics is in my blood

      I grew up idolizing Jerry West, Happy Hairston and Gail Goodrich ;=}

      by trashablanca on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:13:26 PM PDT

  •  What's the HR for? I don't get it. n/t

    "Help!!! I'm being Enlightened!" - TCFKNCS's avatar

    I always wanted to quote an avatar.

    by RhymesWithUrple on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:09:01 PM PDT

    •  Someone's overactive team spirit. ;) n/t

      by paintitblue on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:15:34 PM PDT

  •  Somebody TRed Red!?!?!?! n/t

    by theran on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:36:52 PM PDT

•  Where's Al?

  by gchaucer2 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:04:11 PM PDT

  •  Above you.

    by DemocraticLuntz on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:04:27 PM PDT

    •  Bastard.

      by gchaucer2 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:04:45 PM PDT

      •  LOL!

        I love you guys!

        by Lava20 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:09:32 PM PDT

  •  look up

    by ETinKC on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:04:38 PM PDT

  •  Seriously...

    
    How does he do that?

    "Help!!! I'm being Enlightened!" - TCFKNCS's avatar

    I always wanted to quote an avatar.

    by RhymesWithUrple on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:05:21 PM PDT

    •  Al pretty much

      rules the internet.  Probably related to that other Al or something.

      by mcfly on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:07:39 PM PDT

      •  I love that other Al.....

        
        Don't tell Mr. Urple.  Oh yeah.  He already knows.

        "Help!!! I'm being Enlightened!" - TCFKNCS's avatar

        I always wanted to quote an avatar.

        by RhymesWithUrple on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:12:07 PM PDT

    •  maybe with cut and paste and a split screen

      by abarefootboy on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:08:39 PM PDT

•  God damn Indiana for not being done yet!

  by DemocraticLuntz on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:04:13 PM PDT

  •  No, God Bless Indiana!

    No matter if she ends up winning, it will be by the narrowest margins.   She has been thoroughly obliterated tonight.

    by Delaware Dem on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:05:14 PM PDT

    •  Yeah, but I can't finish my work with

      this.

      by DemocraticLuntz on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:05:46 PM PDT

      •  Oh well. You should have finished it earlier.

        ;)

        by Delaware Dem on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:06:33 PM PDT

        •  I literally plan my homework around election

          nights because I know I can literally do nothing but be glued to this site on such nights....

          is that odd?

          by krwlngwthyou on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:09:43 PM PDT

          •  I did that in '04

            A professor called on me in CivPro, and I answered that I was sorry but I hadn't done the reading because the election was happening.  He laughed and moved to my neighbor (oops).  

            by socratic on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:16:00 PM PDT

        •  L. Ron Hubbard told me to wait, and since he's

          a fellow Colonial, I listened.

          by DemocraticLuntz on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:10:06 PM PDT

      •  I need this to be over with so I can focus

        on my work!!!!

        come on Indiana!

        by susan in sc on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:09:20 PM PDT

        •  For Real

          I've got finals to study for, and right now that is not going well.

          by dancingdemocrat on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:24:33 PM PDT

    •  Yup.... Thank goodness. n/t

      "Help!!! I'm being Enlightened!" - TCFKNCS's avatar

      I always wanted to quote an avatar.

      by RhymesWithUrple on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:06:01 PM PDT

    •  no, no, no, God Damn Indiana!

      sorry couldn't resist

      by mainmonkey on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:07:06 PM PDT

      •  If You Had Any Idea

        how many times I've repeated that exact phrase...

        by CityLightsLover on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:09:38 PM PDT

    •  She's having a nervous night, worse even than

      dodging sniper fire.

      by collardgreens on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:07:30 PM PDT

    •  YES YES YES

      Thank you for predicting a 10 point win in both states earlier. I don't comment often, but it was great to have low expectations and WIN!!!!!!

      Sorry you took so much heat for it...it was all too obvious to me!

      by kat68 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:08:27 PM PDT

      •  Yeah, I was amazed people were taking me

        seriously.   LOL.

        by Delaware Dem on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:19:11 PM PDT

    •  Sigh of fucking relief DD

      Clink Clink.

      by cosmic debris on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:08:38 PM PDT

      •  Oh yes. I am ducking frinking now.

        by Delaware Dem on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:11:59 PM PDT

        •  You provided a service. Really.

          by kat68 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:23:45 PM PDT

    •  The wait kills the victory for her

      if she pulls it out.  It's kind of an after thought if she is able to barely hang on.  People will go to bed without seeing her victory.  No matter what, she lost.

      by Into The Stars on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:11:00 PM PDT

    •   Local radio

      reports that in Elkhart County, IN (we border Mich, and are smack in the center of the state) there were 27K Dem ballots cast and 17K R ballots cast, which is an unheard of switch, the county is majority Republican.

      I am convinced a lot of Republicans voted for Hillary and that if we had a closed primary in Indiana Obama would be the clear winner.

      by Stoy on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:16:58 PM PDT

  •  Are you kidding?

    This is great!  Let her twist and spin and the media declare Victory for our guy.

    by gloryous1 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:07:27 PM PDT

    •  let her roast her little fanny over the flame of

      ... self doubt... and humility.

      by abarefootboy on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:10:27 PM PDT

  •  Hey! It's Lake County's Fault!!

    by CityLightsLover on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:08:53 PM PDT

    •  WTF is going on with Gary?

      Is little Ronnie Howard still singing that damn song? Is that it?

      by khereva on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:18:24 PM PDT

      •  Don't Know...

        Michael Jackson is from there; does that help?

        by CityLightsLover on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:33:32 PM PDT

        •  Not as much as one might think...

          ...and I'm damn disappointed not to find a youtube of Ronnie singing Gary, Indiana.

          ::sulks::

          by khereva on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:35:02 PM PDT

  •  Think two time zones for Indiana.

    by drmah on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:09:04 PM PDT

  •  IN is gonna pull through for BO :)

    by PapiGonzo on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:25:00 PM PDT

•  over at mydd the top rec diary

  actually claims the olbermann is sexist because of the following segment.

  by ETinKC on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:04:18 PM PDT

  •  Husan Su?

    by DemocraticLuntz on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:04:47 PM PDT

    •  good guess

      I have tried to stay out of it - but maybe i am the one who is nuts - but the comments over there by a good number of folks were just irrational.

      by ETinKC on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:06:17 PM PDT

      •  This thing needs to end.

        I happened upon a blog network that looked to be a daily read for me, due to the raw level of insight and the intelligence of analysis, about six months ago.

        A week after Edwards bowed out, they began supporting Hillary.

        Two weeks after that, they began supporting Hillary venemously.

        Right now they're verging on lunatic fringe, raving at the news cycle in anger.  What began with "We have two good candidates here who are only slightly different on the issues," is now so bitter, attacking every speech, every soundbite, and every poll, that it's painful to read.  I don't know what about Hillary is inspiring this type of following, but the "if your candidate does not win the primary, will you still vote democratic?" number is dropping like a rock on that side of the table, even as the only one doing things I can concieve of as objectionable to Democrats is Hillary.

        Limbaugh is rolling in his coffin during the daytime.

        by Squalish on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:42:07 PM PDT

  •  300,000 votes out in Lake County!

    The suspense is killing me, and us!

    by panicbean on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:05:12 PM PDT

    •  if it is 60-40 split

      that is 180,000-120,000

      isn't it?

      by jalapeno on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:06:07 PM PDT

    •  Are there really that many votes to be had in

      Lake County?

      by someotherguy86 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:06:08 PM PDT

      •  he said 300k total, not just lake county

        by mjkelly on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:06:52 PM PDT

        •  no. he was reffering to Lake alone.

          by rapcetera on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:12:16 PM PDT

      •  Nope

        There's only 500,000 people in the county

        by dmsdbo on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:06:53 PM PDT

      •  That close to Chicago, good things can happen.

        by DemocraticLuntz on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:07:18 PM PDT

        •  I find that I have to get right into downtown

          Chicago before the really good stuff happens to me.

          by kate mckinnon on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:14:11 PM PDT

      •  From Tim Russert to you, I swear! n/t

        by panicbean on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:07:35 PM PDT

      •  Yes, Lake county,combined cities larger than Indy

        Hammond, Gary, Munster, Calumet City, East Gary, and on and on and on.

        by drmah on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:11:15 PM PDT

        •  Lake County about 63% of Indy

          Lake County is 63% of Indy's size.  

          Incidentally, I'm in Lake County tonight.  We got a robocall from the Merrillville Police Department.  

          A 3-year-old boy, Ivan Osario (Rosario?) disappeared from 6724 Adams Street, Merrillville at 5:30 pm CT.  He is Hispanic and possibly wearing a tanktop.  

          If you are in central Merrillville, please keep an eye out for this child.

          by Yamaneko2 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:32:51 PM PDT

    •  Damn!

      I a buying a bottle of Moet.

      I am floored.

      by PLS on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:10:53 PM PDT

  •  They say you are sexist if you don't

    vote for Hillary.

    They are idiots and should be ignored.

    by Delaware Dem on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:05:58 PM PDT

  •  That's just the ugly tip

    of a gargantuan iceberg in the making over there.

    by anotherCt Dem on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:06:20 PM PDT

    •  there are many folks in the diaries calling them

      names, but I don't see any middle road being called for.

      by ETinKC on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:07:20 PM PDT

    •  MyDD will completely destroy itself.

      One of the first premier blogs has met its demise.  It is sad, really.

      by Delaware Dem on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:07:32 PM PDT

      •  That used to be my second stop after this

        and it's imploding.

        by anotherCt Dem on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:10:11 PM PDT

        •  Yep. And I have deleted it from my bookmarks

          by Delaware Dem on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:11:07 PM PDT

      •  What happened to Jerome?

        Did he sell out?

        Is he getting paid by the Clinton people?

        Is he just tired of spending his life in progressive causes that don't win, that he finally decided to side with the Clintons in the hope they were "winners" that might take him along into an administration?

        Is he Peter Dau's blogger bitch?

        Can anyone enlighten me?

        by LivinginReality on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:14:16 PM PDT

•  Now just under 30K... For now n/t

  by Nihilvor on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:04:24 PM PDT

•  If I'm dreaming

  please don't wake me up

  by Nath 4 BO on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:04:29 PM PDT

  •  No you're not. We f'ing DESERVE this!!!!!!!

    by anotherCt Dem on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:07:14 PM PDT

•  81%

  81% in, 4-point spread.

  Here I am.

  Rock you like a hurricane.

  More coverage here.

  by Democrashield on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:04:40 PM PDT

  •  Lake Co. not til 11 pm eastern

    Funny McCain Pics archive updated regularly

    by InsultComicDog on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:05:43 PM PDT

    •  Damn, I don't know if I can wait that long

      gotta be up at 4:30 to go to work.

      by litho on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:06:21 PM PDT

    •  LAKE COUNTY!!!!!!

      I can't wait.

      Will it definitely be in at 11?

      by mainmonkey on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:12:32 PM PDT

      •  Keith just said midnight.

        by khereva on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:24:13 PM PDT

•  Back to 38k

  
  Please let Lake County end this...

  "Help!!! I'm being Enlightened!" - TCFKNCS's avatar

  I always wanted to quote an avatar.

  by RhymesWithUrple on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:04:42 PM PDT

•  no lake county till 11pm (n/t)

  by BLin22 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:04:44 PM PDT

  •  Damn you...

    ...eastern standard time!

    It salts the wound to know that the dude who invented standard time was Canadian.

    by maple leaf on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:09:11 PM PDT

  •  Just upped to 12:00 pm,

    the turnout must have been huge.

    by PLS on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:36:50 PM PDT

•  4 percent?

  I left for like an hour.

  WTF??

  by Kab ibn al Ashraf on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:04:45 PM PDT

  •  They left Mayor Daley alone with some machines.

    by DemocraticLuntz on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:05:13 PM PDT

    •  Great, all my dead relatives would be proud

      to vote for Obama

      by kafkaesque on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:07:53 PM PDT

      •  They did that on February 5th (assuming

        you are from Chicago).

        by DemocraticLuntz on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:09:11 PM PDT

      •  Sorry.

        Here they'll be voting for Clinton.

        by Yamaneko2 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:33:52 PM PDT

    •  I love me some Mayor Daley!

      by Hope08 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:09:54 PM PDT

      •  LOL, love the tag!

        and am I going to enjoy this week now!....every last talking head ESPECIALLY MORNING JOKE, wringing their cold white hands.

        by donailin on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:13:57 PM PDT

      •  so do I----for whatever gripes people have,

        he loves Chgo and has made it a world-class city, one of the best in the country.

        by dotster on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:22:40 PM PDT

    •  Hmm

      Pehaps.

      Lake County is delayed an hour.

      by blue earth on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:10:05 PM PDT

  •  It's more like 3 I think...

    if you take it down to the decimals...

    by peaceandprogress on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:05:31 PM PDT

    •  Still really 4

      Current PV margin about 38K out of one million votes.  19% outstanding.

      by RenaRF on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:07:53 PM PDT

      •  you're right

        I think it was down to 3.5 for a bit though...

        by peaceandprogress on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:16:58 PM PDT

      •  I keep seeing the margin drop

        but the split remains the same. Whaddupwiddat?

        by khereva on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:25:11 PM PDT

  •  Right on for your sig! n/t

    by don mikulecky on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:07:31 PM PDT