Combined results thread #13

I was wrong. Lanny Davis isn't a tool, or even the biggest tool. He's the biggest frackin' moron in the history of the universe. What a lying sack of shit. It's embarrassing.

For those of you not watching CNN, Lanny claims that the popular vote, the pledged delegate count, the states won, the money raised -- all that doesn't matter because some poll he cherry picked shows that Clinton is "more electable" in November.

So who needs to vote? Why bother with the hassle? Just have Gallup pick our nominee! What an idiot.

Indiana

85 percent reporting

          %    Dels
Clinton  52     15
Obama    48     11

Vote margin: 40,352

North Carolina (Winner: Obama)

86 percent reporting

          %    Dels
Obama    56     31
Clinton  42     20

Vote margin: 199,654

Obama is about to make up everything he lost in Pennsylvania.

•  Whassup with Union County?

  by fgilbert2 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:45:38 PM PDT

  •  Its a VERY small pro Clinton county. nt

    by jimmyhoffa2222 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:45:57 PM PDT

  •  Tiny

    immaterial.

    HRC will win it handily, but there might be no more than 1000 total voters.... or -- about 100 times less than Lake county.

    by zonk on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:46:28 PM PDT

    •  Maybe There Are NO Democrats... n/t

      by xeju on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:56:33 PM PDT

  •  union county

    8000 people total; I imagine no more than 2000 votes.

    by prf on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:46:52 PM PDT

•  Obama breaks 200k margin in NC. nt

  by jimmyhoffa2222 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:45:41 PM PDT

  •  But

    popular votes don't matter...

    by Gearhead on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:46:21 PM PDT

  •  Yup

    It's up around 205,000 now.

    by xeju on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:49:19 PM PDT

  •  Unfortunately it doesn't look like 200k combined

    IN+NC.  That should be 185k-190k, ONLY!

    Out the door with the popular vote argument.  Pretty soon even getting FL and MI won't do it (in popular vote, in delegates, in superdelegates, or in anything else)!

    by DefendOurConstitution on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:49:53 PM PDT

    •  How To Win The Popular Vote

      Make part of his platform deciding the Presidency by popular vote instead of the electoral college :-)

      by Soundpolitic on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:54:19 PM PDT

•  I wish this were over already. nt

  by vertexoflife on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:45:50 PM PDT

  •  It is. n/t

    by LauraC on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:49:53 PM PDT

•  I say it's time to get out! Hil!!

  by dogeatdogi on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:45:53 PM PDT

  •  She won't

    She's off her chump.

    by AndrewMC on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:46:31 PM PDT

•  Lake will be big for Obama

  its the same demographics as NC

  by soozler on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:46:06 PM PDT

  •  are there enough votes in Lake County..

    ...to close the 40,000 vote gap for Obama?

    by DFH on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:54:07 PM PDT

    •  I'm not sure, but I think Chuck Todd said

      that if Obama pulled the sort of numbers he was pulling in some of the other Obama strongholds in the state, he could pull it off!!!!

      I did some calculations, and if the rest of the vote goes 65% (or even a little under 65%) in Obama's favor, he would win. And in some of the other counties he had a 67% win. I don't want to get my hopes up though. That's a really big percentage. CNN still hasn't called it.

      by Wordie on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:00:47 PM PDT

  •  Lake Co White Vote is mis-leading.We are talking

    about the most ethnic diversity than anywhere in Indiana.  Italian, Polish, Eastern Europe, Irish, Lativians, etc ---- 2, 3 and 4 generations of Immigrant families, who came to work in the Steel Mills and live in Lake County.

    by drmah on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:58:22 PM PDT

•  Obama isn't patriotic?

  His speech should put that stupid meme to bed once and for all.

  It won't, of course. But I have the audacity to hope.

  by sab39 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:46:08 PM PDT

•  Do I Hear 200,000 Vote Margin in NC?

  by TomFromNJ on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:46:12 PM PDT

  •  OVER!

    by DefendOurConstitution on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:50:26 PM PDT

•  Hillary's spech: I win, Send me money

  Disgusting.

  by Luvvinit on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:46:25 PM PDT

•  it takes a village

  And Lanny Davis has his own niche - after all, every village needs an idiot....

  by bluemass on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:46:26 PM PDT

  •  Lanny Davis IS E.B. Farnum eom

    by greenskeeper on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:47:50 PM PDT

    •  With just about the same taste

      in their wardrobe.

      by Over the Edge on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:56:43 PM PDT

•  every single line

  coming out of HRCs mouth just drops clunk to the floor

  by Randolph06 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:46:27 PM PDT

•  Bill looks teary/pissed

  heh.

  by chicago minx on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:46:30 PM PDT

  •  pissed in a drunk sort of way

    by maxxdogg on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:48:33 PM PDT

  •  sounding like she's tossing in the towel

    I dunno her tone is not of a victor particularly in all this thanking business. She sounds done.
    Yeah, I'm wishfully thinking.

    by michele2 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:50:46 PM PDT

    •  They're Never Done. Temporarily Disappointed nt

      by Gooserock on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:58:16 PM PDT

•  Well, if Lanny says it - it must be true!

  Bwahahaha!!

  * wiping a tear from my eye *

  by Spathiphyllum on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:46:40 PM PDT

•  Wow, can Hillary spin

  You have to give her credit...

  by CTLiberal on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:46:44 PM PDT

  •  She's way overdrawn with me.

    by beijingbetty on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:00:03 PM PDT

•  This was a terrible night for Obama

  I don't know why, but hopefully Terry McAuliffe can enlighten me tomorrow.

  by DH from MD on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:46:48 PM PDT

•  So what does electable mean?

  Is that white slang for "I'm white, he's not?"

  by jillles on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:46:51 PM PDT

  •  It Has for Two Weeks nt

    by Gooserock on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:58:54 PM PDT

•  I missed the beginning of her speech

  What Web site do I visit to support Hillary?

  by kafkaesque on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:46:57 PM PDT

  •  www.barackobama.com n/t

    by EquationDoc on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:59:51 PM PDT

•  Lake has the same elctoral make-up as North Carol

  by soozler on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:46:58 PM PDT

•  I learned my lesson watching CNN on PA...

  ...why didn't you?  The cool TV screen just isn't cool enough to make me sit through those shmucks talking.

  by pakaal on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:47:16 PM PDT

  •  I don't use that cable stuff

    I go here for news.  On a humble modem.  And I'm as up to date as anyone who uses that old cable television contraption.

    by Soundpolitic on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:56:24 PM PDT

    •  Exactly...

      ...humans do their brains a disservice by ever looking to Teh Television for news.

      by pakaal on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:10:36 PM PDT

•  We needed this

  This puts Obama clearly back "in front" for the media.  We all knew, of course, that he was already ahead by all logical measures.

  by ganner918 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:47:22 PM PDT

•  Lanny Davis

  is the most shameless surrogate Hillary has, which I kind of admire--only for his sheer brass-balled loyalty, not for any kind of principle or perception behind it.

  Alex
  Choose Our President 2008

  by ourprez08 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:47:24 PM PDT

  •  We need to stop admiring liars

    and to stop buying what they are selling.

    Not picking on you, just very, very weary of the trend. It's distorting American politics.

    by beijingbetty on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:02:10 PM PDT

  •  If he hadn't been such an idiot

    in the past, I might have (almost) felt sorry for him.  I swear his lip was trembling.  But, even now, he can't be gracious.  Also, it must be embarrassing for him that all the other panelists seems to be enjoying his pain.  Oh, boo-hoo.

    by LCA on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:16:14 PM PDT

•  Kos, Lanny GAVE MONEY TO REPUBLICANS.

  Rob Portman and Orrin Hatch.  Look it up on Tray.com.

  by Pragmaticus on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:47:29 PM PDT

  •  Party disloyalty

    ...if Davis belongs to any Democratic Committee, members of that committee may have him impeached from his membership. It's in the party bylaws.

    by Junkyard Dem on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:50:46 PM PDT

•  Is Lanny davis mildly retarded?

  by dogeatdogi on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:47:36 PM PDT

  •  yes

    by tomaxxamot on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:57:34 PM PDT

  •  Wasn't he Bill Clinton's attorney

    by TNforkerry on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:59:14 PM PDT

•  Lanny looks like a pimp

  in that godawful suit of his....ewwwwww

  by maxxdogg on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:47:38 PM PDT

•  How'd Gallup do tonight? n/t

  by Pragmatic Left on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:47:46 PM PDT

•  Delusional Fools

  The hunger for power has driven them out of their minds. They can't really believe the shit they peddle, but apparently, they do.

  And Lanny Davis? That condescending little prick will need a new face of I run into him. Fucker.

  by Dave925 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:47:52 PM PDT

•  I'm telling you these people are

  devoid of hearts. They have lost it. I am really not understanding how Lanny Davis can say that.

  by Highwind on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:47:55 PM PDT

•  Now she's sounding

  concilliatory..."will work for the nominee"

  by genxerd71 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:47:55 PM PDT

•  Of course he can take Lake Cty by 57%

  by fgilbert2 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:47:59 PM PDT

•  Bill

  Bill looks sad. He knows. He knows this thing is over.

  Sorry Bill.  Your legacy went down the drain when Hillary used the kitchen sink.

  by applecorebaltimore on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:48:06 PM PDT

  •  No, Bill's Legacy went down the drain

    when Bill said too much after South Carolina (or maybe it went down the drain when Monica didn't wash that blue dress).

    by bdbd on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:08:29 PM PDT

•  "I win, he wins, I win, he wins"

  NO Hillary, you lost.

  by chicago minx on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:48:12 PM PDT

  •  11 in a row

    by maxxdogg on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:49:22 PM PDT

•  According to CNN's map

  "No preference" won Washington County NC on the republican side.

  WTF?

  by sab39 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:48:29 PM PDT

  •  Fred Thompson Protest Voters? n/t

    by Soundpolitic on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:58:07 PM PDT

    •  Probably

      Ron Paul revolutionaries...

      by TexasDemocrat on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:03:55 PM PDT

      •  Can't be

        Paul was on the ballot, as were Romney and Huckabee. They ALL lost to "no preference"

        by sab39 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:19:21 PM PDT

        •  No Preference...

          ...doesn't sound quite as good as "Senator Uncommitteed" does it?

          by Soundpolitic on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:22:46 PM PDT

•  Here's Lake county

  Lake County Link

  when they post them......

  Chuck Todd said there was about 300K votes left, but I don't see that, it looks like there are only about 300K registered voters in all of Lake county, so likely only 100K votes left.
  This means BO would need about 70% to over take her....not going to happen but it will be close!

  by gman on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:48:31 PM PDT

  •  Still

    half of LaPorte (Michigan City still entirely unreported per a source), 1/3 of Porter, half of Monroe -- and a few stray precincts in Marion and Hamilton.

    Lake turnout will be closer to 150K than 100K.

    by zonk on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:49:58 PM PDT

    •  higher turnout is better for sure

      I am keeping my fingers crossed for him to pull this one out

      by gman on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:51:01 PM PDT

    •  If, at 85% of the vote in, there have been

      a total of 1,064,284 votes cast (552,530 for Clinton and 511,754 for Obama), then the total vote when it's all done should be about 1,255,099, and the votes remaining to be counted should be 187,815.

      The way I calculated it, if Obama got 65% of the remaining vote, at the end of the night he would  have a total of 643,833 votes to Clinton's 608,266.

      At least I think so - unfortunately even my basic math skills have gotten very rusty. Maybe someone else should calculate it too.

      by Wordie on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:17:46 PM PDT

      •  Remember though

        You can't necessarily extrapolate population from precincts.

        by zonk on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:30:29 PM PDT

        •  Oops. Well, at any rate, it's still close, and

          CNN hasn't called it yet. There's still hope, although it's a longshot I suppose.

          by Wordie on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:35:12 PM PDT

      •  85% of precincts, not votes

        but i agree, it's not 300K votes left

        by eparrot on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:31:14 PM PDT

  •  I went there, I now I'm wondering

    what the hell is a "School Munster At-large"?
    Whatever it is, 3 people are running for it.
    http://www.lakecountyin.org/...

    by HugoDog on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:55:54 PM PDT

    •  Munster At Large

      I voted for Granpa Munster.

      Though the werewolf vote will go for Eddie.

      by SonnyTufts on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:59:33 PM PDT

    •  Munster is a community....

      I'm guessing the election is for a school board position.

      by Jackson on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:01:09 PM PDT

      •  the thing is

        most of the other school positions are listed something like "Griffith Public Schls At-Lg", although there is one other thing called "School Hammond At-Large"

        by HugoDog on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:13:01 PM PDT

  •  Todd was also talking about uncounted

    (as of yet) absentee ballots remaining to be counted. That's mixed news, I suppose.

    by Wordie on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:10:06 PM PDT

•  He needs to get it down to the 30-35K

  range between the remaining few Hamilton and Marion precincts... the remaining half of Monroe... and he needs to win LaPorte by 1-2K (he's down less than a 1000 now, but I have it from inside sources that NONE of Michigan City is in yet).

  by zonk on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:48:33 PM PDT

•  whoa

  I agree, Bill's lack of enthusiasm and down face is sending the opposite message to HRC's speech. body language of the family is majorly suggestive.
  okay - HRC - drop out now, it's time.

  by michele2 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:48:37 PM PDT

  •  He did look very grim.

    Despite everything Hillary and Lanny Davis, et al are saying, I don't think they did as well as they were hoping/expecting. It's going to be close in Indiana, and she lost big in NC. Not the sort of night to impress SDs.

    by Wordie on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:31:54 PM PDT

•  BREAKING: North Carolina never happened

  did she even thank her supporters there, let alone acknowledge O's win?

  by Randolph06 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:48:49 PM PDT

  •  NOrth carolina is a small state

    the smallest state in the union, even smaller than Rhode Island.

    by davefromqueens on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:50:20 PM PDT

    •  RED state - whatever state!

      by DefendOurConstitution on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:51:38 PM PDT

      •  and Indiana isn't?

        That dog won't hunt, Madame Senator.  Don't even try.

        by dougymi on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:06:52 PM PDT

  •  Throw them under the bus

    Just like Wisconsin when she spoke in El Paso after getting clobbered by the bucky badgers

    by maxxdogg on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:50:53 PM PDT

  •  Yes, actually, she did.

    by gavrik on Tue May 06, 2008 at 09:34:16 PM PDT

•  Clinton's speech

  She talks at me the way Bush does.  

  And why does Harold Ford insist that we need a unity ticket?  Obama can never move forward with the Clinton's in the shadow.

  by LauraC on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:48:51 PM PDT

  •  I think Harold JR wants to be the first AA Prez

    and it rankles him that it's gonna be Barack H. Obama instead. Just my humble opinion, but then, I lived in Memphis many, many years.

    by collardgreens on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:59:26 PM PDT

    •  He's made no secret of that ambition

      Nice to see a fellow Tennessean here. I don't live there now, but I consider it home.

      by dawnt on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:16:37 PM PDT

      •  I moved away, too, about 6 yrs ago

        but still think of TN as home. I go back down there once a year for 2-3 weeks just to get some gravy and biscuits, among other cultural activities.

        by collardgreens on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:47:59 PM PDT

  •  he's got a one track mind.

    He really really really wants that DLC Veep.  It's power to him.

    by dougymi on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:08:22 PM PDT

•  He's been doing this for weeks.

  I swear I heard him demand Obama dance for us during the whole Rev. Wright nonsense.

  He's beyond offensive.

  One good thing to come out of this is that these dinosaurs will disappear.

  by Coss on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:48:52 PM PDT

•  Lanny "Bush's ashtray" Davis

  Still talking about Clinton winning MA and CA like that  means Obama can't win those states in November.  What a joke.  

  by Blackacre on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:49:07 PM PDT

•  Ok, ALL SDs MUST end this tomorrow!

  by Hope Monger on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:49:13 PM PDT

•  I hope Obama winning the nomination

  will mean we will never have to see Lanny Davis's smarmy face on TV ever again.

  by peraspera on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:49:21 PM PDT

•  its a beautiful spring night.

  by cinecyclist on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:49:30 PM PDT

  •  =)

    by vertexoflife on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:51:03 PM PDT

•  Lanny Davis is not a Democrat to me

  He can join the republicans with Ford, Lieberman, and the other right wing pieces of garbage who have been helping republicans for years

  by davefromqueens on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:49:31 PM PDT

  •  He HAS been helping them. He's given them money.

    Look it up.  Rob Portman and Orrin Hatch.

    by Pragmaticus on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:50:43 PM PDT

•  Obama already balanced PA

  The lead that Obama had after Mississippi?  Because of superdelegate endorsements and other changes, Obama still had basically the same lead after Pennsylvania, and had extended it by another 10 before tonight.  Hillary is not catching up, just keeping pace, with the race coming to an end.

  by richBixby on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:49:51 PM PDT

  •  She's not keeping pace tonight

    by maxxdogg on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:51:58 PM PDT

    •  All her attacks have just slowed down the finish.

      not changed the result at all.

      by richBixby on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:58:47 PM PDT

•  love it when you get fiesty!

  I literally lol'd.

  Oh Lanny.  I think he was crying before.

  by Into The Stars on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:50:02 PM PDT

•  Davis performed a great service to humanity!

  He pissed off Donna Brazile so thoroughly tonight that Brazile came out quite explicitly for Obama. She is the superego of the superdelgates.

  Thanks, Lanny, you wrapped it up.

  by Ohiobama on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:50:37 PM PDT

  •  Lots of folks pissed of Donna tonight

    especially lightbulb head Paul Begala

    by maxxdogg on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:53:24 PM PDT

    •  and yet she was so cool

      I wanted to sock 'em in the nose

      by aitchdee on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:00:47 PM PDT

  •  DOnna Brazil is for Obama anyway

    I saw her speaking at the urban league dinner and no one was in doubt whom she suspected

    by mplsdemocrat on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:22:24 PM PDT

•  Fox News assholes were all depressed!!!

  All the Nazis fucks, Britt Hum(an waste) and Co.  They were so sad!!! Just like the people at Mydd!

  by Hope Monger on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:51:17 PM PDT

  •  awwwwwww poor brit....

    I feel so bad for him. Did he have that sad hound dog look in his eye?

    by dougymi on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:12:09 PM PDT

•  I think

  she wrote this speech assuming she'd win big in Indiana.  Otherwise, it makes no sense.  

  by ROh70 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:51:17 PM PDT

  •  It's possible

    Even I did not expect this.

    by RandySF on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:52:00 PM PDT

•  Gallup has long been known as Republican pollster

  For more than 40 years, Gallup polls always favor Republicans and Harris used to favor Democrats.

  Since Republicans are lobbying hard to have Clinton as the Demoocratic candidate, it is not surprising to see Gallup also pick Clinton.  

  by skywriter on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:51:52 PM PDT

•  WTF, has Bubba been eating niacin?

  Jesus, his face is redder than her campaign's finances.

  by high coup haiku on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:52:26 PM PDT

  •  Color adjustment on the close up camera?

    by Travis Stark on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:53:30 PM PDT

    •  Let's hope. Christ.

      by high coup haiku on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:54:36 PM PDT

•  Media spin

  Am I the only one tired of listening to the media grasping at straws to explain why Hillary might have a chance?  Campbell Brown was damn near twisting herself into knots to make it seem like this was still a race.  

  by Norbrook on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:52:40 PM PDT

  •  Are you the only one??

    New to Daily Kos, are we? ;)

    by timelad on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:54:59 PM PDT

  •  Yes, wasn't she tho?

    I almost threw something at the tv screen when she started her Hillary-can-still-win this spiel; turned it off instead.

    by collardgreens on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:02:22 PM PDT

•  +207,000 and counting!! n/t

  by physic on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:52:40 PM PDT

•  Look at Bill's face

  Was he crying?  Sunbathing?  Drinking?

  by jillles on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:52:46 PM PDT

  •  the third option

    by maxxdogg on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:54:09 PM PDT

  •  Bill has rosacea, not a joke...

    Lots of Irish folk, like me, end up with it. You don't need to be drunk to be red faced.

    Go Obama!!!!

    by Mopcomike on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:54:33 PM PDT

  •  did he just wipe a tear away? . . .

    by TonyGramsci on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:54:54 PM PDT

•  I'm surprised.

  The results of tonight...didn't we know this would happen after PA? The polls really clouded our minds...and it looks like the Clinton's too. I'm actually disappointed that Obama isn't going to win Indiana. I was really hoping they'd come out for him. But either way, if the primary continues to June, fine by me. I'm one of the few Obama lovers who doesn't mind it. The people are getting to know the man and thats good imo.

  by DemocraticCitizenSoul on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:53:03 PM PDT

•  For too long

  we've let states like that slip out of the Democratic column - translation - won't you Republicans vote for me?  Even if you're just doing it to screw with the Democratic primaries?

  by jillles on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:53:54 PM PDT

•  When she talks about the general election...

  she looks down and is utterly unconvincing.

  by Travis Stark on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:54:10 PM PDT

•  This sounds like a last hurrah speech

  Chelsea and Bill look like they know.

  by kafkaesque on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:54:24 PM PDT

  •  That look on Bill's face

    is not disappointment, it's anger and envy. You'll agree with me tomorrow.

    by Junkyard Dem on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:55:33 PM PDT

    •  Did you see Chelsea, though

      I'm watching online, but for a while she looked like she was really trying to keep it together. I felt terrible watching her, thinking that might be so.

      by kafkaesque on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:00:09 PM PDT

•  Republicans think Obama is more electable

  or they wouldn't be organizing this mischief campaign on behalf of Hillary...

  by TheCrank on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:54:43 PM PDT

•  Bill's definitely been crying.

  He just wiped his tears.

  by Pragmaticus on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:54:58 PM PDT

•  Indiana percentage

  Obama is about to make up everything he lost in Pennsylvania.

  Hooray! I worried she'd get a higher win in Indiana.

  by heart4idaho on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:55:06 PM PDT

•  she has stolen half of her good lines

  from Barack

  by Deoliver47 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:55:31 PM PDT

•  Lanny Davis

  I can't wait to see how the disingenuous little bastard acts when she finally concedes - I'm prepared for dissapointment though because I'm sure she'll still be winning in his imaginary, DLC fantasy world.

  Speaking of Clinton's dumber supporters, it was interesting watching Harold Ford Junior shill her for VP on MSNBC.  One wonders if the Clinton camp is trying for a deal.  If that's the case, I really hope Obama doesn't take her up on it.

  by tomaxxamot on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:55:33 PM PDT

  •  Harold Ford and the DLC

    When real Democrats win the White House, they're THE FIRST PEOPLE I want thrown under the bus.

    Screw the DLC!

    by Junkyard Dem on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:56:44 PM PDT

•  All irrelevant

  It's about her supporters and Johnny Mac now.

  by anotherCt Dem on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:55:56 PM PDT

•  His

  point, which is not that complicated to grasp, is that the superdelegates should choose whoever the believe will win in the general. He's arguing that Senator Clinton will, while Senator Obama will not.

  If your problem is with the concept of superdelegates, say so. Calling someone an idiot for accurately describing the process, is, well, idiotic.

  by Jorge McJunk on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:56:14 PM PDT

  •  How can she win the general

    when she can't beat Obama in the primaries?  She's unelectable, plain and simple.

    by PittsburghPete on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:58:03 PM PDT

  •  And you just summed up

    why it is idiotic.

    by gchaucer2 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:58:14 PM PDT

  •  Still an idiot scenario

    After today she could take 60% of the remaining supers, while holding onto the ones she has, and she'd still lose.

    by Norbrook on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:06:14 PM PDT

    •  OK

      She needs X% of the supers, where X is greater than 60.

      Not sure I see why it's idiotic to think that's possible IF she's more likely to win swing states.

      by Jorge McJunk on Tue May 06, 2008 at 08:09:10 PM PDT

•  SUSA WAS WRONG, SUSA WAS WRONG, SUSA WAS WRONG

  Kisses your mamas baby and dances off into the night singing.......... :D

  by OReillysNightmare on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:56:22 PM PDT

  •  SUSA WAS WRONG, SUSA WAS WRONG, SUSA WRONG

    Second verse just like the first...

    by HairOnFire on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:59:15 PM PDT

•  Thank you, Hillary

  If you've done anything of service, it was toughen up Obama, teach him to focus not just on big crowd speeches but talk to people a few at a time and get all the Wright shitout of the way. So, for that I guess I can thank you.

  by RandySF on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:56:45 PM PDT

•  Chelsea...

  The look on her face said she knows its over.

  by oxfdblue on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:57:15 PM PDT

•  +207,000 and change in NC now.

  Sorry, North Carolina, you no longer matter.

  ~Doc~

  by EquationDoc on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:57:16 PM PDT

•  down to about 39,000

  by cinecyclist on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:57:22 PM PDT

•  HRC wins the original intent vote

  by counting only "three-fifths of all other persons."
  /snark

  by Albanius on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:57:50 PM PDT

•  If I could agree with you more, kos, I would.

  This jerk had his "What a bunch of morons you voters are for making my horse look bad" hat on.
  I didn't vote in Indiana or NC...not my primary... and even I felt insulted by this asshat's condenscending tone.
  The man's a f'tard.

  by WSComn on Tue May 06, 2008 at 07:57:50 PM PDT

•  all eyes on Lake

  rest is basically counted

  by tari on