After posting about Witness #40 [Sandra McElroy], an admitted White Supremacist who perjured herself before the Darren Wilson Grand Jury even though the prosecutor knew she wasn't even there - I received a flurry of push back tweets which purported to prove that this entire situation in Ferguson, as well as similar shootings and killings in Beavercreek, Cleveland and New York are all simply the fault of "Black Crime".
So we began to discuss Crime Stats, as is usually the case until that person brought this up.
The main problem with the above claim, besides it being completely illogical and improbable, is that best source for it that I was able to find is via Stormfront.
A Stormfront forum member named Kruger has taken considerable time to hunt down official U.S. Department of Justice statistics on interracial rape. He posted the specific URLs on this Stormfront thread. [Link not included, they can get their own traffic]
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Finally, here's how Kruger got the specific numbers of rapes for each category. Using 2006 as the example, he took the number of single-offender victimizations (White only), which was 194,270, then multiplied it by the percentage of Black offenders, 16.7 percent or .167, to get a result of 32,443 Whites raped by Blacks. Kruger used the same formula for all other years; the resultant number can be best defined as a derived number rather than a precise number.
U.S. Justice Department 2006 rape statistics:
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/...
Scroll to Table 42. --> 32,443 Whites raped by Blacks, zero Blacks raped by Whites.
The methodology used here, assuming that the total number of rapes divided by the total number of black offenders (and that was for all crimes, not just for rape) somehow produces 32,443 white victims and 0 black victims - (because I guess no white person rapes anyone?) - is simply, flatly, ridiculous. Just like the claim that 92% of Blacks Kill Blacks is flatly wrong
as I've shown repeatedly.
Also the DOJ link in this post is broken and doesn't work.
So what's the truth here?
Well, my Supremacist quoting friend on twitter also supplied a link, in support of their graphic meme, from someplace called Metapedia.
The relationship between race and crime is one of the most politically sensitive race differences. Statistics have shown that members of different races have different propensities to commit crimes. One consequences is that recent mass migrations are causing changes in crime patterns in many nations.
This site also includes the exact same image he tweeted to me with the following text.
Based on USDOJ statistics http://www.bjs.gov/... for 2008, there were 19,293 cases of blacks raping white people each year while no whites raped blacks at all that year. Many other years such as 2005 also had the same statistics where blacks raped 37,460 white females and no whites raped any black females. Each year the statistics are the same, large numbers of blacks raping whites and no whites raping blacks.
And it has lovely tidbits like this on it's front page.
Featured Article.
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So I'm gonna take a wild stab and raise the suspicion that Metapedia is to White Supremacists as Conservapedia is to Wingnuts.
Their version of the BJS link works however and reading through the pdf I found it doesn't exactly say what Metapedia claims it said.
On Page 55 (Table 42) we have a chart of single-offender victimizations, by type of crime, race of victim, and perceived race of offender.
Rape/sexual assault
White Victim only 117,640 White Offenders 74.9% Black Offenders 16.4% * Others 2.8% * Unknown 5.9% *
Black Victim only 46,580 White Offenders 0.0% * Black Offenders 74.8% * Others 0.0 %* Unknown 25.2% *
Note: Detail may not add to total shown because of rounding.
*Estimate is based on 10 or fewer sample cases.
Includes verbal threats of rape and threats of sexual assault
Besides the fact that the rate of same race rape case between Whites (74.9%) and Blacks (74.8%) is nearly identical, the percentage of 16.4% Black Offenders times 117,640 White Victims
is 19,292 so we have independent confirmation of the source of this claim.
Moving on, yes, this chart does include 0.0%* in the columns where you have Black Victims of White Offenders - and also 0.0%* for "Others" - but it also includes something else odd in the final column. Unknowns for White Victims is 5.9% while Unknowns for Black Victims is 25.2% which could easily account for more than the numbers that are shown as "0.0*". There seems to be a major flaw in the tracking of Black Victims and identifying exactly who the offenders are in those cases, it doesn't necessarily mean that there are absolutely zero cases where this takes place.
Since the same race cases are so close it's probably not beyond the realm of reasonableness to suppose that the missing data is in fact fairly close to 16% (for White Offenders) and 2% (for Others). Mathematically that would produce an estimate of about 7,632 cases of perceived Whites who've raped Blacks, as opposed to zero. The differential here (19,292 Black against White to 7,632 White against Black) wouldn't be because black people are more prone to rape it's simply because there are more White People in the country.
Rather than focus on the one section where the data is clearly missing and can easily produce a ridiculously skewed result one could look at the top line for all "Violent Crime" which shows the following.
White Victims only 2,788,600 White Offenders 67.4% Black Offenders 15.4% Other 5.1% Unknown 12.0%
Black Victims only 570,550 White Offenders 15.9% Black Offenders 64.7% Other 7.3% Unknown 12.2%
Generally speaking this is almost perfectly proportional and doesn't show an outsized propensity for Black On White Crime that the tweeter had claimed..
When it comes to other sources such as the FBI Uniform Crime Report the overall picture of violent crime in the U.S. isn't what some people would like to claim.
As you can see the trend of Violent Crime is moving rather steeply downward. Here's how that breaks down in specifics comparing 1994 to 2013.
1994 Violent Crime 1,857,670 Murder 23,326 Rape 102,216 Robbery 618,949 Assault 1,113,179
2013 Violent Crime 1,163,146 Murder 14,196 Rape 79,770 Robbery 345,031 Assault 724,149
Yet again, you can see the trend is downward in all areas, particularly in Murders which are down nearly 40%. But how does that breakdown racially? Well, to perfectly honest we can't be 100% sure because -as shown above- some of the data is missing. What we can tell is the number of people who are arrested for these offenses by race, although even that is imperfect because each arrest doesn't necessarily mean that the person arrested is guilty, or that their aren't other person who may be guilty who haven't been arrested. With those caveats in mind the
FBI reported this for 2012.
Crime |
|
White |
Black |
TOTAL |
9,390,473 |
6,502,919 |
2,640,067 |
Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter |
8,506 |
4,101 |
4,203 |
Forcible rape |
13,886 |
9,027 |
4,512 |
Robbery |
80,135 |
34,761 |
44,002 |
Aggravated assault |
299,943 |
188,505 |
102,371 |
Burglary |
219,232 |
147,156 |
67,554 |
Larceny-theft |
994,304 |
677,895 |
288,025 |
Motor vehicle theft |
52,952 |
35,251 |
16,301 |
Arson |
8,827 |
6,500 |
2,083 |
Violent crime2 |
402,470 |
236,394 |
155,088 |
Property crime2 |
1,275,315 |
866,802 |
373,963 |
Other assaults |
924,839 |
606,048 |
294,678 |
Forgery and counterfeiting |
51,759 |
33,950 |
16,900 |
Fraud |
117,706 |
78,331 |
37,171 |
Embezzlement |
12,371 |
7,994 |
4,103 |
Stolen property; buying, receiving, possessing |
75,516 |
50,144 |
23,787 |
Overall Whites are arrested for crimes at a rate that is nearly 3 Times that of Black People even after
Black people are generally arrested twice as often during traffic stops for the same crimes. Yes, clearly there is something afoot with the Murder and Robbery Arrests Racially, exactly what is going on there is open to debate, but the general trend - particularly with Rape - isn't what Stormfront or Metapedia claims.
Here's what another BJS report says specifically about the Rape trends.
This isn't to say that there isn't crime in black neighborhoods, although the most likely victims of those crimes
are other black people, and that isn't an issue that needs to be focused on and addressed. It does. But the key facts in the Michael Brown case, or with Tamir Rice,
Jonathon Crawford, Jonathon Farrell, Eric Garner, Oscar Grant, Sean Bell, Kendrec McDade, or
Darrien Hunt - yet at the same time a
White Guy waving around an Assault Rifle doesn't get shot, and gets to keep his gun, and a
White Kid with a loaded shotgun doesn't get shot and gets to keep his gun also and a
White Couple pushing a Shopping Cart Full of Ammo down the street doesn't raise any suspicion until they
Kill Two Cops at a Pizza Place - that the
Perception of Black Criminality - and White Innocence - has been blown completely out of proportion.
It's now regularly used by people such as Rudy Giuliani, Geraldo Rivera and pretty much all of Fox News as the justification for pumping Black parts of our cities with White Cops, and then used as the excuse when a disproportion number of young black men are killed by those cops at the rate of 21 Times more frequently.
There's no amount of Black Crime - against either Whites or Blacks - that can possibly justify that result. Particularly when the data sources being used for that justification are missing crucial data and that's being specifically distorted to heighten the threat to White People so they find it easier and easier to sign off on more and more brutal and deadly police tactics. Even when that's means a 12-year-old being punched out by an NYPD Officer while handcuffed.
This is how the numbers break down in more detail on Police Use of Deadly Force against people of various races according to the Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice.
The racial group most likely to be killed by law enforcement is Native Americans, followed by African Americans, Latinos, Whites, and Asian Americans.
Native Americans, 0.8 percent of the population, comprise 1.9 percent of police killings. African Americans, 13 percent of the population, are victims in 26 percent of police shootings. Law enforcement kills African Americans at 2.8 times the rate of white non-Latinos, and 4.3 times the rate of Asians.
Latinos are victimized by police killings at a level 30 percent above average and 1.9 times the rate of White, non-Latinos.
Yes, we should all want Violent Crime to continue to come down, especially in the Black Community, but that is simply
No Excuse for the deadly violence we've been seeing in recent years from police. Generally speaking the rate of Police Killings has been on a downward trend also - except in the last two years where it has spiked from 404 in 2011 to 426 in 2012 to the latest figure on
"Justifiable" Homicide by Law Enforcement of
461 in 2013.
While all the other crime trends are going down, why exactly has the rate of Police Killing gone up 15% in the last two years, which also happen to be perhaps coincidentally, since President Obama - the first Black President - was re-elected? Are Black people - who are admittedly far more likely to be Obama supporters and voters - personally bearing the brunt of outrage and frustration from White (and likely Conservative) Cops? I don't know, but it's a lot more plausible a suggestion than the idea Whites are just completely innocent of practically anything, including rape.
Vyan