I will probably take a lot of incoming spears for this post. I felt obliged to say it. I do not want to be a part of the “Snowden as some sort of martyr” storyline. As a naturalized citizen from Central America who swore an oath to this country, under no circumstances would I ever contemplate doing what Edward Snowden did.
Back in June I video blogged a piece titled “Snowed Snowden Snowed Greenwald On His Voyage To Treason” in which I said,
Many lefties have been jumping onto the Snowden bandwagon without any thought that this is a setup using someone’s own vanity against them. Make no mistake, I am a proud lefty Liberal as we are the ones responsible for an American middle class and expanded access to equality for all (I include both Liberal Republicans, Liberal Democrats, and Liberal others.)
After seeing Snowden for the first time I was extremely doubtful of him, not that the surveillance program isn’t real, — hell, we knew this since 2006 — but the messenger and the statements he was making were problematic. I am a software developer and knew immediately part of his statement showed a severe lack of actual software knowledge.
Are our civil rights being violated? Absolutely. Is it the same as under Bush? Absolutely not since now two branches of the government effect the decisions with the third being informed.
On Friday
Joy Ann Reid,
Ryan Grim, and
Karen Finney had an interesting interchange that provided reality based perspective to the NSA Surveillance dilemma. Joy Ann Reid had a simple question for Ryan Grim. She said that Americans ask for two things of the government. They ask to be kept perfectly safe. And they ask that their privacy is protected. How does people on the civil liberty side believe the NSA should proceed?
Grim had an interesting response.He disagreed with Reid’s framing. He said we do not demand things of our government. We are our government. He said that is what Snowden was saying. Unfortunately that is the answer to the wrong question. Grim later gives the ideological and constitutional response. He said we have a fourth amendment and if we want it to mean something we must abide by it. That still did not answer Reid’s question. Specificity what actions are required if there is going to be some type of surveillance tools to aid in keeping Americans safe.
Finney’s answer was much more nuanced and humble.She said the duality of safety and security is a hard problem to resolve but we must find a way to do so. She however touches on a hypocrisy on this issue. Private companies from Google to Facebook to Microsoft capture more of our information than the government. Americans volunteer this information willingly for no reward. These companies are not answerable to the public. Our government is. Yet many act as if the government is aspirating data as if it were big brother. One would think that we should fear the private sector, the Plutocracy, more so than the government, “we the people”. The government can be voted out of office to effect policy changes unlike the private sector.
Snowden is an egotist not a hero.
Snowden is not a hero. He brought little more than what was known since 2006. As a software developer that programmed in machine language, assembly language, many high level languages, and one who worked on TCPIP as well as internetworking, I can state categorically that many of his technical statements are simply false. His statement about children growing up in a world without privacy and that being wrong is presumptuous. There has been a culture change with respect to privacy. Mr. Snowden may not like it. However, the Facebook generation is happy to lay it out. That is their choice.
A balance must be found. The NSA Surveillance program must be tweaked to protect us from as much intrusion as possible while providing the necessary tools to keep the country as safe as possible, Snowden reopened the debate with a stunt because for all practical purposes,right or wrong, it was a sleeper issue for most Americans. He could have leaked to DailyKOS or many other lefty sites that would have gotten the story traction. The rudderless traditional media would have eventually picked it up. Instead it is likely Russia, China, and many other countries that have our data. There is nothing patriotic about that.
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8:53 AM PT: For those that disagree with me, let us remember that what makes us Liberals is that unlike those on the Right, we entertain a multiplicity of opinions. We are willing to agree to disagree without ill feelings. We also keep our minds open to change our opinions based on new realities. Most importantly we work from the assumption that no ill will is intended to the greater progressive body politic from any honest opinion.
12:02 PM PT: Please keep the messages flying. I try to read as many as possible. I had a feeling this would get wild. I do not take it personally.
I do think that the tone in many of the responses will make many who share a similar opinion to mine stay out of the discussion which is sad. After-all, we want the same thing which is ultimately security and privacy.
I have already received many emails thanking me for this point of view. Many have said they are scared to express this opinion at DailyKOS concerned about the attacks they would get. No one on our side should ever fear disagreeing and opening themselves up to inform and to be informed.
After reading many of the messages and listening to various people on my Politics Done Right radio show, I must alter my opinion of Snowden as a traitor. I have been convinced that it does not rise to that level. I however remain unconvinced about the other points I’ve made. I continue to listen with an open mind and I hope you all will listen to other people’s opinions with an open mind with the expectation of coming to a better consensus. We should be able to feel free to do that here. Don’t you think?